Question: What is the true relation between Orion and Pleiades?
I've been reading a lot about the relation between Orion and the Pleiades cluster as it relates to the key of Solomon. Whenever i ask anyone they clam up and move on without answering. I want to know, with every ancient culture directing us to these objects, what are we to be looking for that they knew?
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A lot of references in old texts are people simply repeating what they've read in older ones or heard from the local high priest who also read it.
There are a few texts having Orion and the Pleiades mentioned together.
eg "Canst thou loose the bands of Orion or bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades"
No connection between the two can be implied from that though and the talk was about something else, not Solomon's key.
Repeating ancient 'wisdom' is the reason the Catholic Church was so much of a hindrance to advancing knowledge in Europe, since it's insistance on accepting Aristotle's view of the Cosmos as being right, which had nothing to do with Biblical stuff except that Aristotle's view was Earth centre'd and therefore must be in accordance with God's Plan by making mankind central in the universe and therefore His most important creation, was directly opposed to observations being made by Galileo and others.
Trouble is, much of what Galileo and others were saying was already said by Erastothenes and other Ancient Greeks and if the Church had taken that on board instead of the much revered Aristotle then history would have been much different and tens of thosands of people would not have suffered torture or been killed.
Secular theories were borrowed for the sake of theological theories and treated as though they were from God, not from a classical Greek philosopher.
All that trouble was through believing old accepted 'wisdom' from someone who was right because of his aura amongst scholars who knew no better, just as was done centuries before by older civilisations in repeating the thoughts of ancient writers.
The Catholic Church has issued a public apology about it's treatment of Galileo, more than 300 years too late, and it now has a world class though far from top class astronomical observatory at Castel Gandolpho doing primary cosmological research in a scientific manner.
It's described by the Church as being one of the oldest astronomical institutes in the world.
Now why didn't they let Galilieo know, if it's that old?
Another lesson in truth and honesty from whose representative on Earth?
Don't believe old gossipmongers and hearsay, however ancient it is.
There's enough of that on gutter-trash soap operas.
And from so-called spiritual leaders.
Oh yes, that observatory...here it is.
http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Other_Inst…
Chances are the reason people clam up is because they're not remotely interested in your question, this is astronomy not mythology and folklore. This key of solomon you refer to is not a recognised scientific term and belongs to mythology, folklore and or religion.
As for the relation between Orion and Pleiades, we use the belt of Orion to find the alpha star in the constellation Taurus by tracing the belt of orion in the opposite direction of Sirius. When we find alpha Taurus (called Aldebaran) we trace an imaginary line parallel to the horizon a few degrees away from Orion to find a nebulous patch which is known as the Pleiades or the Seven Sisters.
The belt of Orion are three stars in a diagonal line that only appear to line up due to the angle between the earth and the stars, these are massive balls of hydrogen gas just like our sun and separated from each other by many light years, the Pleiades is a star forming region of space where there is a lot of gas and a lot of very young stars being formed, none of which has anything remotely to do with some mythical key apparently belonging to some biblical character.
The key of Solomon is a magical grimoire dating to around 14th or 15th century, which is why astronomers neither know about it nor care about it, but if you would like to know more, try asking in mythology and folklore. You might have some luck in Religion and Spirituality too, but if you ask about a grimoire on R&S you'll mostly get atheists telling you it's rubbish and Christians telling you it's evil neither answers will be remotely helpful to you, so I suggest your first choice should be to ask in Mythology and Folklore.
I hope you find the answers you're looking for.
well her is something to think about when light hits 3 prisims the first gos to 7 coloers beams then back 2 one then out in to seven